[webkit-dev] Request for comments

Maciej Stachowiak mjs at apple.com
Thu Aug 14 11:23:52 PDT 2008

Hi Jack,

On Aug 14, 2008, at 2:07 AM, Jack Wootton wrote:

> I hope this signals a better start for Nokia.  Before Nokia can submit
> anything back to the WebKit community they'll have to:

I understand that you may be frustrated by Nokia's absence for some  
time from mainline WebKit development. But the purpose of this list is  
primarily technical discussion, not complaining about past mistakes.  
Let's encourage Nokia to engage with the community productively going  

Nokia folks, I will also point out to you that Jack does speak for the  
WebKit project, therefore you do not have to respond to his complaints  
or demands in this forum. Again, let us stay focused on technical  


> 1. Fix the mainline which has been broken for a year.
> 2. Provide a satisfactory website that gives more information than
> just how to build a broken webkit.
> 3. Provide email addresses for a contact at Nokia that doesn't result
> in the email being returned to the sender because the address is
> defunct (s60webkit at nokia.com).
> 4. Apologise for the COMPLETE lack of communication regarding the
> future of s60 webkit, which does nothing more than create rumours and
> misinformation (with still no announcement, although your architecture
> diagram does provide some insight).
> 5. Actually answer questions on Forum Nokia rather than ignoring
> anything regarding the future of s60 webkit / WRT.
> I am new to webkit, but have been severely disappointed with Nokia's
> approach which shows little more than a complete disregard for anyone
> involved in s60 webkit....that is until you require an architecture
> review.  This is not a personal swipe, since I understand than you
> have attempted to provide some help previously.  Nokia's behaving like
> a child, taking when it wants to and not sharing it's toys.  Shame.
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM,  <Jonni.Rainisto at nokia.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I've been following the webkit-dev list for a while now, and I  
>> though that
>> it might be good time to introduce myself and the project that we  
>> have been
>> working on with a small team.
>> First some general high level introduction jargon for managers or  
>> such ;)...
>> Motivation:
>> Finger-touchable direct manipulation of 2.5D visual objects with  
>> gestures is
>> the new emerging UI paradigm with personal navigation devices.  
>> However, the
>> new paradigm has not reached the web yet -- there is no way a web  
>> developer
>> can embrace the new interaction. In this project we will look into  
>> bringing
>> finger touch and gestures to the web framework in order to  
>> accelerate easy
>> web usage with mobile devices, with the goal of mobile devices  
>> becoming the
>> primary web access method instead of laptops.
>> This project is about:
>> To create innovative web representation platform
>> Multi-touch, accelerometer (rotation, shaking) and haptics based  
>> interaction
>> mechanisms
>> Enriching the mobile web content with 2.5D graphics with hardware
>> accelerated rendering
>> New JavaScript interaction APIs, Haptics CSS extensions
>> High Level Architecture: (disclaimer: this is only high level  
>> architecture
>> and some aspects might change during the project)
>> <<architecture.jpg>>
>> What we have already up and running:
>> - Prototype implementation OpenGL ES 1.1 accelerated QT-WebKit  
>> running on
>> ARM based Internet Tablet device (such as N810), reference  
>> implementations
>> of the draft JS API's are somewhat working (no haptics yet tough).
>> JavaScript test pages receives touch gesture DOM and accelerometer  
>> events
>> quite nicely.
>> I'm wondering if people in this mailing list would be interested to  
>> look and
>> give feedback/comments to our JS API draft versions and general  
>> feedback for
>> us to see if this would be beneficial for end users. More detailed  
>> draft
>> architecture specifications are also available upon request.
>> Our intention is to start contributing our implementation efforts  
>> back to
>> open source, if WebKit community would be interested to receive  
>> it? :)
>> You can also find me in IRC idling 24/7 on #webkit channel with  
>> nick: Jonni
>> Regards, Jonni
>> --
>> Jonni Rainisto
>> Specialist, Nokia Devices R&D / Technology Strategy and  
>> Architecture /
>> Technology Foresight / New Technology Initiatives
>> Gsm: +358 50 3038358  Email: jonni.rainisto at nokia.com
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> -- 
> Regards
> Jack
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