[webkit-dev] Request for comments

[Maciej Stachowiak]

On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:

> Hi Jack,
>
> On Aug 14, 2008, at 2:07 AM, Jack Wootton wrote:
>
>> I hope this signals a better start for Nokia.  Before Nokia can  
>> submit
>> anything back to the WebKit community they'll have to:
>
> I understand that you may be frustrated by Nokia's absence for some
> time from mainline WebKit development. But the purpose of this list is
> primarily technical discussion, not complaining about past mistakes.
> Let's encourage Nokia to engage with the community productively going
> forward.
>
> Nokia folks, I will also point out to you that Jack does speak for the

Oops, I meant to say "does not speak".

> WebKit project, therefore you do not have to respond to his complaints
> or demands in this forum. Again, let us stay focused on technical
> issues.



>
>
> Regards,
> Maciej
>
>>
>>
>> 1. Fix the mainline which has been broken for a year.
>> 2. Provide a satisfactory website that gives more information than
>> just how to build a broken webkit.
>> 3. Provide email addresses for a contact at Nokia that doesn't result
>> in the email being returned to the sender because the address is
>> defunct (s60webkit at nokia.com).
>> 4. Apologise for the COMPLETE lack of communication regarding the
>> future of s60 webkit, which does nothing more than create rumours and
>> misinformation (with still no announcement, although your  
>> architecture
>> diagram does provide some insight).
>> 5. Actually answer questions on Forum Nokia rather than ignoring
>> anything regarding the future of s60 webkit / WRT.
>>
>> I am new to webkit, but have been severely disappointed with Nokia's
>> approach which shows little more than a complete disregard for anyone
>> involved in s60 webkit....that is until you require an architecture
>> review.  This is not a personal swipe, since I understand than you
>> have attempted to provide some help previously.  Nokia's behaving  
>> like
>> a child, taking when it wants to and not sharing it's toys.  Shame.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM,  <Jonni.Rainisto at nokia.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I've been following the webkit-dev list for a while now, and I
>>> though that
>>> it might be good time to introduce myself and the project that we
>>> have been
>>> working on with a small team.
>>>
>>> First some general high level introduction jargon for managers or
>>> such ;)...
>>>
>>> Motivation:
>>> Finger-touchable direct manipulation of 2.5D visual objects with
>>> gestures is
>>> the new emerging UI paradigm with personal navigation devices.
>>> However, the
>>> new paradigm has not reached the web yet -- there is no way a web
>>> developer
>>> can embrace the new interaction. In this project we will look into
>>> bringing
>>> finger touch and gestures to the web framework in order to
>>> accelerate easy
>>> web usage with mobile devices, with the goal of mobile devices
>>> becoming the
>>> primary web access method instead of laptops.
>>>
>>> This project is about:
>>>
>>> To create innovative web representation platform
>>> Multi-touch, accelerometer (rotation, shaking) and haptics based
>>> interaction
>>> mechanisms
>>> Enriching the mobile web content with 2.5D graphics with hardware
>>> accelerated rendering
>>> New JavaScript interaction APIs, Haptics CSS extensions
>>>
>>> High Level Architecture: (disclaimer: this is only high level
>>> architecture
>>> and some aspects might change during the project)
>>>
>>> <<architecture.jpg>>
>>>
>>> What we have already up and running:
>>> - Prototype implementation OpenGL ES 1.1 accelerated QT-WebKit
>>> running on
>>> ARM based Internet Tablet device (such as N810), reference
>>> implementations
>>> of the draft JS API's are somewhat working (no haptics yet tough).
>>> JavaScript test pages receives touch gesture DOM and accelerometer
>>> events
>>> quite nicely.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if people in this mailing list would be interested to
>>> look and
>>> give feedback/comments to our JS API draft versions and general
>>> feedback for
>>> us to see if this would be beneficial for end users. More detailed
>>> draft
>>> architecture specifications are also available upon request.
>>>
>>> Our intention is to start contributing our implementation efforts
>>> back to
>>> open source, if WebKit community would be interested to receive
>>> it? :)
>>>
>>> You can also find me in IRC idling 24/7 on #webkit channel with
>>> nick: Jonni
>>>
>>> Regards, Jonni
>>> --
>>> Jonni Rainisto
>>> Specialist, Nokia Devices R&D / Technology Strategy and
>>> Architecture /
>>> Technology Foresight / New Technology Initiatives
>>>
>>> Gsm: +358 50 3038358  Email: jonni.rainisto at nokia.com
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards
>> Jack
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