[webkit-dev] Request for comments

Jack Wootton jackwootton at gmail.com
Thu Aug 14 03:42:15 PDT 2008

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Kalle Vahlman <kalle.vahlman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/8/14 Jack Wootton <jackwootton at gmail.com>:
>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Kalle Vahlman <kalle.vahlman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 2008/8/14 Jack Wootton <jackwootton at gmail.com>:
>>>> I think perhaps this depends on how you choose to categorise what has
>>>> (not) happened to the s60 webkit port.  I choose to view it at a
>>>> company granularity, here's why: It is the same company, the same
>>>> legal entity, the same policies, same guidelines, same work ethics
>>>> etc.
>>> If you actually believe that, you probably don't know the big
>>> corporate world too well.
>> I know it pretty well.  I know it well enough to understand that most
>> multinationals try extremely hard to standardise corporate processes,
>> tools, methods and approaches.  Multinationals really do expend a lot
>> of time and effort in standardisation of many areas of said
>> organisation.
> Emphasis on _try_. ;)

Fair enough :)

>>> I'm not saying Nokia has handled the S60 port well (I've heard
>>> otherwise), but certainly they are within their rights in not
>>> maintaing open sourced code[1]. Blackmailing them with empty threats
>>> about unrelated contributions is hardly going to buy you better
>>> support in any case...
>> Er..., blackmailing? Who said anything about blackmailing?  Could you
>> point out where any blackmailing occurred?
>> Er..., threats? Who said anything about threats?  Could you point out
>> where any threats occurred?
> You said:
> "Before Nokia can submit anything back to the WebKit community they'll
> have to:" [list of things like apologies etc]
> Sounds like threatening to refuse contributions to me, but you might
> of course mean "I hope that nokia would..." with that statemen.

Yes. I meant "I hope that Nokia would...".  I should ahve been clearer.
>> I think you've got a little carried away here.
> You did too with hijacking this thread for ranting ;)

I think perhaps you don't appreciate just how poor Nokia have been
with regards s60 webkit.  I have requested, time and time again,
information regarding the s60 webkit, even a hint as to whether the
code line will stay broken.  Apart from Jonni's response, all my
requests have been ignored by Nokia.  The next thing requests are
being made for future plans of webkit.  It grates a little :p

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