[webkit-dev] Client Hints

Yoav Weiss yoav at yoav.ws
Tue Apr 28 08:42:04 PDT 2015


(Re) Posting Ilya's response from April 24th, since his response wasn't
published on the mailing list archive for some reason.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Yoav Weiss <yoav at yoav.ws> wrote:

> +Ilya for spec related questions.
>
> Also, I forgot to mention it, but my intention is to implement the RW and
> DPR hints first, and see about the MD and RQ hints (which are newer to the
> spec) later on.
>

Yes, we should scope this discussion to RW and DPR. This is consistent with
Blink implementation [1], and to keep this thread focused I'll skip the
comments on MD/RQ/etc. That said, happy to discuss those in a separate
thread :)


> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs at apple.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is the Internet-Draft for this planned to become a standards-track RFC?
>> Is there an IETF Working Group that has adopted it?
>>
>> Yes, and as part of the HTTP WG. /cc mnot

> On the spec contents: I’m wary of the fact that the header names are very
>> opaque. That’s not in the HTTP tradition, where header names are generally
>> human-readable. I am skeptical that the HTTP WG would be satisfied with
>> these header names as-is.
>>
>> I believe the intent with the short names was to minimize impact on the
> network, since the headers will be sent with every sub-resource requests
> once the server has opted-in. With that said, you're not the first to make
> that comment, so I'm open to modify that, especially since HTTP/2 makes
> this consideration irrelevant.
>

Uncompressed bytes on the wire add up quickly and short names are
consistent with general policy of keeping those at a minimum. I don't
believe this is counter to HTTP WG goals or guidance. That said, I'm not
opposed to renaming them if there is a strong preference one way or another.

> I know spec feedback may be off-topic for an implementation thread, but
>> I’m not sure where else to send it since it’s not clear if this
>> Internet-Draft is associated with a working group.
>>
>> Spec feedback is most welcome. The best place to send it is the GitHub
> repo <https://github.com/igrigorik/http-client-hints/issues>.
>

Big +1 to that. This is all great feedback, thanks Maciej.

ig

[1]
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/vOgv-TqefsA/o_fEsy8RFcwJ
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