[webkit-dev] Client Hints

Ilya Grigorik ilya at igvita.com
Fri Apr 24 14:37:46 PDT 2015


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On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Ilya Grigorik <ilya at igvita.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Yoav Weiss <yoav at yoav.ws> wrote:
>
>> +Ilya for spec related questions.
>>
>> Also, I forgot to mention it, but my intention is to implement the RW and
>> DPR hints first, and see about the MD and RQ hints (which are newer to the
>> spec) later on.
>>
>
> Yes, we should scope this discussion to RW and DPR. This is consistent
> with Blink implementation [1], and to keep this thread focused I'll skip
> the comments on MD/RQ/etc. That said, happy to discuss those in a separate
> thread :)
>
>
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs at apple.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is the Internet-Draft for this planned to become a standards-track RFC?
>>> Is there an IETF Working Group that has adopted it?
>>>
>>> Yes, and as part of the HTTP WG. /cc mnot
>
>> On the spec contents: I’m wary of the fact that the header names are very
>>> opaque. That’s not in the HTTP tradition, where header names are generally
>>> human-readable. I am skeptical that the HTTP WG would be satisfied with
>>> these header names as-is.
>>>
>>> I believe the intent with the short names was to minimize impact on the
>> network, since the headers will be sent with every sub-resource requests
>> once the server has opted-in. With that said, you're not the first to make
>> that comment, so I'm open to modify that, especially since HTTP/2 makes
>> this consideration irrelevant.
>>
>
> Uncompressed bytes on the wire add up quickly and short names are
> consistent with general policy of keeping those at a minimum. I don't
> believe this is counter to HTTP WG goals or guidance. That said, I'm not
> opposed to renaming them if there is a strong preference one way or another.
>
>> I know spec feedback may be off-topic for an implementation thread, but
>>> I’m not sure where else to send it since it’s not clear if this
>>> Internet-Draft is associated with a working group.
>>>
>>> Spec feedback is most welcome. The best place to send it is the GitHub
>> repo <https://github.com/igrigorik/http-client-hints/issues>.
>>
>
> Big +1 to that. This is all great feedback, thanks Maciej.
>
> ig
>
> [1]
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/vOgv-TqefsA/o_fEsy8RFcwJ
>
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