[webkit-dev] SVG external referencing not working as of latest chrome canary

[Adam Barth]

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Steve Williams
<stephen.j.h.williams at googlemail.com> wrote:
> 1.  It's been on your bug database for ages hence filing another entry won't
> move anything forwards.
> 2. svg 1.1 spec seems a little over the top in places so not personally
> interested in full support - just the good stuff.
> 3. Have provided you with a minimal test case in the previous post.
> 4. "Cite real-world sites using the functionality to the relevant bugs."
>
> ????? chicken and egg. that's not how we make progress ! I'll use it in our
> site when it works but can't until it does.
> For now I have to iframe as a workaround but that sucks because iframes grab
> the entire rect for mouse input which means you can't subtly blend svg over
> html.

Have you considered using SVG-in-HTML?

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/SVG_In_HTML_Introduction

Adam


> 5. Like you, I am busy. I don't have time to fix this (really). Sorry,
> appreciate you don't like that but it is what it is.
>
> 6. Would be great if this could be advanced in priority to enable us to
> raise the bar, cross browser.
>
> Am sure you won't appreciate this fired back at the mailing list & I realise
> I'm risking a ban when you've asked me not to do this, but I'm a bit of a
> rebel :)
>
> Thanks for all your hard work.
>
> FF has svg bugs too - different (lower priority niggles). Will go hassle
> them next. IE9 a bit wobbly too, but well ... :)
>
> If basic support can be solidified cross browser, we have an interesting
> platform over & above html5.
>
> Best regards,
> Steve.
>
>
> On 13/01/2013 21:37, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> If you're interested in more complete SVG support, here are some things you
> can do:
>
> (1) File bugs for any missing features that don't have bugs already.
> (2) Create a meta-bug for "complete SVG 1.1 support" or what have you that's
> blocked by all the relevant feature bugs.
> (3) Add useful reduced test cases to the relevant bugs.
> (4) Cite real-world sites using the functionality to the relevant bugs.
> (5) Work on implementing some of these features yourself.
> (6) Persuade WebKit hackers that you know (offlist) to work on some of these
> features.
> (7) Contact one of the vendors that works on WebKit via their developer
> relations channels and ask them to implement the features you care about.
>
> If you are interested in more complete SVG support, I encourage you to do
> some or all of these things.
>
> Note, however, that posting feature requests or advocacy for specific bugs
> is not really appropriate for this list. It's for talking about the
> development of WebKit itself, and no one uses requests on this list as a way
> to drive priorities.
>
> I'm glad to see you are interested in WebKit's SVG support and I hope you
> will consider some of the possible steps above to improve it.
>
> Cheers,
> Maciej
>
> On Jan 13, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Steve Williams
> <stephen.j.h.williams at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>    I've done a little experimenting to see where we're at wrt to svg feature
> set and it seems webkit is lagging some way behind gecko.
>
> Of particular concern is lack of external referencing capability through the
> svg use tag.
>
> I attach a simple example that works in firefox for your consideration.
>
> root.svg should link through to object.svg and render it.
>
> It doesn't in latest chrome canary. You've had a bug filed on this for a
> long time but it's still unresolved so thought I'd mail.
>
> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499
>
>
> "We are lowering the priority because this is not heavily used."
>
> The feature is not used heavily because it doesn't work properly.
>
> Never use lack of use as a reason to not do something :)
>
> SVG is important because it's the lowest common denominator high spec
> graphics interface across all major browsers. Looks like you're behind ie9
> in terms of implementation. You should at least match their implementation
> so we can raise the bar. Of course IE should implement webgl but until they
> do SVG is the best we've got across all mainstream browsers.
>
> Thanks in advance for your consideration.
>
> webkit is behind the curve in implementation of this web standard - please
> address this.
>
> Best regards,
> Steve Williams
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