[webkit-dev] Gated trunk, experiences from OpenStack

Adam Barth abarth at webkit.org
Tue Feb 5 09:28:42 PST 2013

Do you know how they got rid of flakiness in their tests?  We've spent
a bunch of effort fixing flaky tests (and in marking the remaining
flaky tests as flaky), but there's still a long tail of flakiness.  I
wonder if that sort of thing might be different for OpenStack if they
have a different approach to testing than we do.


On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Tim Ansell <mithro at mithis.com> wrote:
> Hey guys,
> Last week a number of the team here at Google Sydney, including myself
> attended Linux.conf.au 2013 conference. The conference was a blast and the
> hot topic this year was OpenStack, an Open Source Cloud layer.
> The OpenStack project has grown from being a small project to having over
> 500 active committers and continues to grow at a rapid pace. Both the
> Continuous Integration Miniconf
> (http://lca2013.linux.org.au/schedule/30102/view_talk?day=monday) and main
> conference included talks from OpenStack leaders about how they have tried
> to handle this growth and I think we can learn from their successes and
> failures. All of the OpenStack's infrastructure is documented in the
> following talks http://openstack-ci.github.com/publications/
> I pulled the following stats to see how comparable the projects are;
> OpenStack;
> (http://openstack-ci.github.com/publications/lca2013-ci/index.html#(3))
> Over 500 Active Technical Contributors
> As many as 200 trunk changes an hour
> 18 (integrated) projects (and growing)
> I tried looking these up in WebKit and got the following;
> ~200 active contributors
> As many as ~12 trunk changes an hour
> 1 project, but 7 target platforms
> One of the most interesting parts of OpenStack was having a "gated trunk".
> From their talk;
>> Before each change to the OpenStack projects is merged into the main tree,
>> unit and integration tests are run on the change, and only if they pass, is
>> the change merged.  We call this "gating".
> There is a lot of debate about the value of a gated trunk on the internet;
> which I'm not going to repeat here. OpenStack's experience has been that it
> preserves the following properties;
> http://openstack-ci.github.com/publications/lca2013-ci/index.html#(9)
> Ensures Code Quality
> Protects developers
> Devs always start from working code
> Protects tree
> Bad code doesn't land
> Egalitarian
> Process is the same for everyone
> Process is transparent
> Process is automated
> These are all things that came up in Eric's "WebKit wishes" email specially
> the parts about having an always green tree. The egalitarian nature of the
> system also helps with trusting people as you *know* they can not break the
> tree. This system is similar to our commit queue, however nobody has
> privileges to bypass the queue.
> OpenStack has 18 projects which are all tightly integrated, for example a
> change in the API in one project could break another project, for this
> reason they gate changes on tests runs from all projects before allowing a
> commit to land to any of them. While WebKit is only a single project, the
> process of requiring multiple jobs to be green is similar to WebKit needing
> to support multiple platforms.
> They do point out that when this system is set up, the system has to be
> ultra repeatable and reliable;
>> Once everything is automated, the projects stops if the automation does -
>> http://openstack-ci.github.com/publications/lca2013-ci/index.html#(8)
> To allow this to happen, OpenStack has managed to eliminated all flaky tests
> in their suite. WebKit is not at this stage and still has a large number
> tests which are both failing and/or flaky. Luckily, WebKit has much better
> infrastructure for dealing with and tracking them down.
> Other things they have done to try and make this process work are;
> Like WebKit, every patch is required to have code review before being
> submitted. OpenStack requires two positive reviews before allowing a commit
> to be submitted, rather than the single one that WebKit needs.
> Like WebKit, OpenStack has an "early warning system" which runs all tests as
> soon as a patch is submitted.
> The complete OpenStack test suite takes around ~1 hour to run, but as they
> have more than 1 event per hour their landing system needs pipelining. They
> have developed a system called Zuul to make this happen. Before they had
> this pipeline process, committing was taking many hours to land.
> You can see their currently running system at http://zuul.openstack.org/ and
> find out more about Zuul at the following locations;
>> Zuul: a Pipelining Trunk Gating System
>> http://amo-probos.org/post/14
>> http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/ogv/OpenStack_Zuul.ogv
> I guess this is something we should discuss further.
> Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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