[webkit-dev] WebKit branch to support multiple VMs (e.g., Dart)
Dominic Cooney
dominicc at chromium.org
Wed Dec 7 01:13:43 PST 2011
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Oliver Hunt <oliver at apple.com> wrote:
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> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Dominic Cooney wrote:
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> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Oliver Hunt <oliver at apple.com> wrote:
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>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:55 AM, Anton Muhin wrote:
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>> > Good day, everyone!
>> >
>> > I am sorry if it didn't sound clear enough in our original message,
>> > but we're not proposing a new language support, but we're proposing a
>> > patch which allows others runtimes to run along with JS in the
>> > browser.
>> >
>> > Of course, we're doing this because of our work on Dart, but our
>> > intent was to solicit a feedback from the WebKit community if there is
>> > any interest in supporting runtimes additional to JS (and not JS +
>> > Dart) in the first place.
>> As I have already said, we already support multiple bindings being in use
>> at the same time.
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> Those bindings are different because the code that uses them is not
> activated from web pages. Looking at the specific posted patches, those
> changes seem necessary to support activating a different language from a
> page eg <script> tag. So I think while that your specific claim that WebKit
> supports multiple bindings at the same time is true, it misses the point.
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> No I was getting sick of the continual claim that this was about
> supporting multiple VMs/bindings, rather than adding proprietary extensions
> to webkit
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>> Continuing to claim that is your goal is not helpful. Your goal is to
>> allow additional non-standard languages to be provided by webcontent. This
>> is an academic exercise as it doesn't match webkit's goal of being a
>> standards compliant engine,
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> Is that WebKit’s goal?
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> Um, yes. From http://www.webkit.org/projects/goals.html (I'm fairly sure
> this has already been quoted in an earlier email but just to bring it back
> in context):
> GoalsWeb Content EngineThe project's primary focus is content deployed on
> the World Wide Web, using standards-based technologies such as HTML, CSS,
> JavaScript and the DOM.
> --Oliver
>
I intended the question about whether standards compliance was a goal
rhetorically, in that it seems to me that this goal is honored or ignored
capriciously.
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