[webkit-dev] to reitveld or not to reitveld

Jeremy Orlow jorlow at chromium.org
Thu Jun 11 17:20:15 PDT 2009

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jeremy Orlow <jorlow at chromium.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Joe Mason <joe.mason at torchmobile.com>wrote:
>> Mark Rowe wrote:
>>> On 2009-06-11, at 15:16, Ojan Vafai wrote:
>>>  On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Ojan Vafai <ojan at google.com <mailto:
>>>> ojan at google.com>> wrote:
>>>>    On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Mark Rowe <mrowe at apple.com
>>>>    <mailto:mrowe at apple.com>> wrote:
>>>>        There are also concerns about access to the data store of the
>>>>        application, backup procedures, etc.  Our existing servers
>>>>        are well understood in this regard.   We've also found in the
>>>>        past that having services spread across different systems
>>>>        causes confusion when something goes wrong, for whatever
>>>>        reason, as it's not clear who to contact to address the problem.
>>>>    For what it's worth, we've had next to zero maintenance effort go
>>>>    into keeping rietveld running on appengine. As far as I know,
>>>>    it's been pretty much stable and problem free. But I don't
>>>>    actually maintain it, so I can't say that for sure. :)
>>>> It seems to me that all the issues raised with using reitveld are
>>>> solvable. Assuming you all are OK with doing this iteratively instead of
>>>> needing all the issues to be resolved on day one, I think we can probably
>>>> start taking concrete steps forward.
>>> Given what has been said so far I'm still not clear why Rietvald is a
>>> better option than Review Board.
>> Well, I haven't heard anything concrete on why Review Board is better than
>> rveld, either.  All I've seen are some posts saying, "You know, Review Board
>> exists too." Is the UI better?  Is the architecture better?  Is the design
>> very different?  Is it easier to integrate with git?  Exactly how much work
>> is involved in hosting each of these solutions?  The only thing concrete
>> I've seen is that Review Board is self-hosting, while rveld is tied to
>> AppEngine.
> ...and there's some that you could run rietveld without AppEngine
> infastructure if necessary.

er...there's "there's some _evidence_ that you could run rietveld without
AppEngine infastructure if necessary."  (referring back to Ojan's comment)

> FWIW, another project I (used to) work on tried Review Board out about a
> year ago.  We found it to be pretty clunky, so we continued just doing code
> reviews via diffs in email.  Maybe it's improved since then.  Either way, I
> believe the team is now using Rietveld for large reviews.
> J
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