[webkit-dev] to reitveld or not to reitveld
Jeremy Orlow
jorlow at chromium.org
Thu Jun 11 17:19:08 PDT 2009
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Joe Mason <joe.mason at torchmobile.com>wrote:
> Mark Rowe wrote:
>
>>
>> On 2009-06-11, at 15:16, Ojan Vafai wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Ojan Vafai <ojan at google.com <mailto:
>>> ojan at google.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Mark Rowe <mrowe at apple.com
>>> <mailto:mrowe at apple.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are also concerns about access to the data store of the
>>> application, backup procedures, etc. Our existing servers
>>> are well understood in this regard. We've also found in the
>>> past that having services spread across different systems
>>> causes confusion when something goes wrong, for whatever
>>> reason, as it's not clear who to contact to address the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, we've had next to zero maintenance effort go
>>> into keeping rietveld running on appengine. As far as I know,
>>> it's been pretty much stable and problem free. But I don't
>>> actually maintain it, so I can't say that for sure. :)
>>>
>>> It seems to me that all the issues raised with using reitveld are
>>> solvable. Assuming you all are OK with doing this iteratively instead of
>>> needing all the issues to be resolved on day one, I think we can probably
>>> start taking concrete steps forward.
>>>
>>
>> Given what has been said so far I'm still not clear why Rietvald is a
>> better option than Review Board.
>>
> Well, I haven't heard anything concrete on why Review Board is better than
> rveld, either. All I've seen are some posts saying, "You know, Review Board
> exists too." Is the UI better? Is the architecture better? Is the design
> very different? Is it easier to integrate with git? Exactly how much work
> is involved in hosting each of these solutions? The only thing concrete
> I've seen is that Review Board is self-hosting, while rveld is tied to
> AppEngine.
...and there's some that you could run rietveld without AppEngine
infastructure if necessary.
FWIW, another project I (used to) work on tried Review Board out about a
year ago. We found it to be pretty clunky, so we continued just doing code
reviews via diffs in email. Maybe it's improved since then. Either way, I
believe the team is now using Rietveld for large reviews.
J
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