[Webkit-unassigned] [Bug 16401] [GTK] GObject/C DOM binding

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https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16401





--- Comment #228 from Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net>  2009-07-14 02:28:19 PDT ---
(In reply to comment #223)
> (In reply to comment #218)
> > Created an attachment (id=32633)
 --> (https://bugs.webkit.org/attachment.cgi?id=32633) [details] [details]
> > brings glib/gobject bindings up to svn r44473.
> > [...]
> > 
> > dave agrees - https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16401#c214 - that the way
> > forward is to take this "as-is" and then to move forward from there.  over what
> > is likely to be a period of several months, retro-fix issues that have been
> > raised and recorded will - should - be created.  it would have been nice if
> > people had listened to my advice on this months ago, but, not believing me, you
> > had to find out for yourselves [by taking up adam's time as well as mine].  at
> > least we're moving forward, now, rather than playing silly buggers.
> 
> Please forgive me, I thought that Adam's patch contained the entire body of
> work when I wrote Comment #214.  I withdraw my statement that it would be okay
> to land the full patch in one piece.

 so, david, just to reiterate the sequence of events, so that things can
 be fully understood:

 * patch began, with a goal to making python a full and complete peer of
   its javascript bindings and also of the competition such as python-xpcom
   and MSHTML

 * patch submitted with the expectation of enthusiasm and support of apple
   and free software community.

 * patch demanded to be "cut down" which went down like a lead balloon.

 * patch completed to meet initial goals and milestones.  first release
   made on sourceforge.

 * patch worked on by yorba to meet some of apple reviewers' demands
   [as well as very sensible requests].

 * too much removed, to meet demands, to make it possible for patch to
   be used and tested [under pyjamas-desktop]

 * agreement reached to move forward [with misunderstanding]

 * "2 steps backwards, 1 step forwards" patch created, along with
   a roadmap to move forward in small incremental steps.

 * misunderstanding highlighted.

so, as you can see, the root cause of the misunderstanding is the
demands made by apple reviewers to remove critical LANGUAGE_GOBJECT
functionality. amongst other things.

if those demands had not been made, adam's excellent work would contain
the necessary features required for me to be able to continue from where
his company told him to leave this alone.

well - it wouldn't have contained event handling, but being only that
one thing missing i could have added that back in.

so, you only have yourselves to blame, for misdirecting, misguiding
and abusing the resources and time of those volunteers and members
of the free software community willing to contribute.

that the level of expertise required to contribute is so high leaves
you now with a serious problem.

one which a few apologies and some inclusive discussions instead of
statements including sentences "that's not the vision for webkit 
language bindings that apple has" would go a long way towards repairing
the damage that apple has done to its reputation.

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