[Webkit-unassigned] [Bug 17135] New: too much complexity in debugging for development, slim it down

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http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17135

           Summary: too much complexity in debugging for development, slim
                    it down
           Product: WebKit
           Version: 525+ (Nightly build)
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: All
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: Enhancement
          Priority: P2
         Component: Web Inspector
        AssignedTo: webkit-unassigned at lists.webkit.org
        ReportedBy: mikel.walters at gmail.com
                CC: mikel.walters at gmail.com


safari needs an simpler approach to debug and develop. There are too many hoops
(and instances, like drosera, etc) to jump through just to get to
css/javascript/html and seems like they are view only in most cases. Please
take note of the implimentation of  Firebug for firefox. Put them all in one
place! maybe just hitting F12 opens a plugin that has everything all-in-one. No
reason to re-invent the wheel, keep it simple.

Per convo with apple dev:

<MikeL> i wrote a (very simple) script that runs and evaluates javascript in
real-time. im not sure why you would say you cant particulary

<MikeL> (Drosera)freezes alot (very frustrating), non-intuitive design, wheres
the custom var watches, real-time updating, etc.... laundry list of missing
tools

<MikeL> ... just take notice of how firebug works for instance, its a proven
design, built by developers

<MikeL> picture using firebug and your used to editing css and *poof* it
responds in the browser

<aroben> MikeL: and you can do that now with the Web Inspector
<aroben> MikeL: but we want to have JavaScript debugging and CSS editing in one
tool
<aroben> MikeL: like Firebug does

<aroben> MikeL: the biggest thing the Web Inspector is lacking right now is a
JS debugger

<bdash> there are technical reasons why we can't do that at the moment though
<aroben> MikeL: we're working towards it, but as andersca said we have some
technical challenges to fix first
<MikeL> u can, but i have to spawn another instance for web inspector, another
instance for drosera, another console for the javascript (which i havent gotten
to work)

<MikeL> i program at a rapid pace, and i want people to be able to use safari
as well as other browsers. w/o the tools it just slows me down


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