[webkit-qt] Phonon and webkit-qt

[Trever Fischer]

> Hallo,
>
> I still don't get the point why you need to replace Phonon in QtWebkit,
> when
> it works ok everywhere else, from HTML5 in KHTML over plasmoids up to
> Amarok
> or any video player in KDE. In fact it is currently maturing to a state
> where
> it fulfills its goal and makes playback on different platforms and over
> all the
> desktop with different backends a painless effort. I guess it comes from
> your
> mobile roadmap, but please don't be shortsighted.
> QtWebkit has some relevance in KDE, as it is the only serious perspective
> for
> a KDE platform browser being it Konqueror with kpart-webkit or something
> like
> rekonq. When you decide to move to QtMultimedia you in fact break QtWebkit
> for
> KDE and make the usage of Phonon either pointless, because you need
> QtMultimedia with GStreamer anyway or force KDE SC to create a fork with
> Phonon built-in.
> Although I am not a multimedia guy this problem hits me hard, because I
> have
> written a kioslave to allow iostreams from bittorrent in any KDE
> application.
> While this works like a charm in Konqueror+KHTML with almost instant
> playback
> in the HTML5 widget it does not work in QtWebkit :-/ Atm. this is a
> primary
> use case.
> Since the kio module uses KTorrent, it will be, at least to my
> understanding,
> very difficult to add a similar input module to Qt to allow support in
> QtWebkit
> as well.  And even if it could be done, it wouldn't be smart.
> To unlock the situation of QtWebkit for any future KDE platform browser
> you
> should definetly talk to the Phonon guys and try to figure a road map
> where
> Phonon suppport is at least still buildable in QtWebkit.
I'm one of the phonon guys. The reason I'm asking is because we *want*
phonon to stay used by QtWebkit. Not too sure what your reply is trying to
say, but thanks for the gobs of praise anyways :)

There is no plan for KDE to use QtMultimedia. Phonon is and will always be
the multimedia toolkit for KDE.
>
> I hope it is obvious that supporting KDE is only in your (Nokia's)
> interest as
> it is not only the most sophisticated free desktop environment and a
> serious
> playground for new ideas, but also a very flexible platform to explore
> innovative new technologies in the future. kio-magnet is only one small
> perspective on bridging the web with free desktop technologies. Still it
> is a
> unique platform-feature atm and has already raised some attention.
Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not working for Nokia :P
>
> Christian
>
>> On Sunday, January 09, 2011 06:24:13 pm Antonio Gomes wrote:
>> > http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2010/05/06/qt-47-scope-change-regarding-qt-multi
>> > me dia/
>>
>> So does that mean qtwebkit will be using Phonon for the forseeable
>> future,
>> or just for 4.7?
>>
>> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Trever Fischer
>> >
>> > <tdfischer at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> > > Howdy.
>> > >
>> > > Us over in phonon land are wondering about webkit-qt's relationship
>> > > with Phonon.
>> > >
>> > > * Whats the current status of Phonon's integration with webkit-qt?
>> > > * How can phonon be improved to fit your use cases?
>> > >
>> > > We're in #phonon on freenode and i'm idling in #webkit if a more
>> > > interactive medium is desired.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Trever Fischer (tdfischer)
>> > > Fedora Ambassador, KDE Hacker
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