<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Does anyone else in the WebKit community have comments on this proposal?<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""></blockquote></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> - Maciej</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Yoav Weiss <<a href="mailto:yoav@yoav.ws" class="">yoav@yoav.ws</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span class="im">(Re) Posting Ilya's response from April 24th, since his response wasn't published on the mailing list archive for some reason.</span></div><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span class="im"><br class=""></span></div><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span class="im">On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Yoav Weiss <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:yoav@yoav.ws" target="_blank" class="">yoav@yoav.ws</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">+Ilya for spec related questions.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also, I forgot to mention it, but my intention is to implement the RW and DPR hints first, and see about the MD and RQ hints (which are newer to the spec) later on.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">Yes, we should scope this discussion to RW and DPR. This is consistent with Blink implementation [1], and to keep this thread focused I'll skip the comments on MD/RQ/etc. That said, happy to discuss those in a separate thread :)</div><div class=""> <br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="im">On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Maciej Stachowiak <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:mjs@apple.com" target="_blank" class="">mjs@apple.com</a>></span> wrote:</span><span class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;line-height:14px" class="">Is the Internet-Draft for this planned to become a standards-track RFC? Is there an IETF Working Group that has adopted it?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div class="">Yes, and as part of the HTTP WG. /cc mnot</div><span class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;line-height:14px" class="">On the spec contents: I’m wary of the fact that the header names are very opaque. That’s not in the HTTP tradition, where header names are generally human-readable. I am skeptical that the HTTP WG would be satisfied with these header names as-is.</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class="">I believe the intent with the short names was to minimize impact on the network, since the headers will be sent with every sub-resource requests once the server has opted-in. With that said, you're not the first to make that comment, so I'm open to modify that, especially since HTTP/2 makes this consideration irrelevant.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">Uncompressed bytes on the wire add up quickly and short names are consistent with general policy of keeping those at a minimum. I don't believe this is counter to HTTP WG goals or guidance. That said, I'm not opposed to renaming them if there is a strong preference one way or another.</div><span class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;line-height:14px" class="">I know spec feedback may be off-topic for an implementation thread, but I’m not sure where else to send it since it’s not clear if this Internet-Draft is associated with a working group.</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class="">Spec feedback is most welcome. The best place to send it is <a href="https://github.com/igrigorik/http-client-hints/issues" target="_blank" class="">the GitHub repo</a>. </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">Big +1 to that. This is all great feedback, thanks Maciej.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">ig</div><div class=""> </div></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" class="">[1] <a href="https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/vOgv-TqefsA/o_fEsy8RFcwJ" target="_blank" class="">https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/vOgv-TqefsA/o_fEsy8RFcwJ</a></div></div></div>
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