[webkit-dev] Trying to turn WebRTC's code on - MEDIA_STREAM flags

Jacques-Olivier jo.hache at temasys.com.sg
Tue Jul 29 02:45:33 PDT 2014


Hi everyone, 

I have some updates regarding my enabling of media_stream and some new question.

I managed to build the project with the following options ON:
ENABLE_MEDIA_CAPTURE
ENABLE_MEDIA_CONTROLS_SCRIPT
ENABLE_MEDIA_SOURCE
ENABLE_MEDIA_STATISTICS
ENABLE_MEDIA_STREAM
ENABLE_VIDEO
ENABLE_VIDEO_TRACK
For this I had to:
1) copy the content of these folders
WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug/DerivedSources/WebCore
WebKit/WebKitBuild/Release/DerivedSources/WebCore
into DerivedSources/WebCore

2) Add some header and source files to the Xcode projects. The files were present in the repo, but not added to the projects.
3) Add some headers to be copied into WebCore.framework

Given those changes, I was able to build the project with both Xcode and the build script;

I tried running a very basic test that only calls navigator.webkitGetUserMedia, but the call fails with the folioing error:
[Error] NotSupportedError: DOM Exception 9: The implementation did not support the requested type of object or operation.

I went into the code with Xcode’s debugger and found that the error happens in NavigatorUserMedia::webkitGetUserMedia (basically the function’s entrance).
My understanding is that the NavigatorUserMedia is trying to get the content of a “supplement” for the key “UserMediaController"
The access to the supplement itself is fine, but its map only contains one object with a key value set to NULL.
Therefore the supplement returns NULL, and the NavigatorUserMedia triggers an error.

There are some comments in the code about how supplements work, but not what they are for. Can anyone enlighten me about this?
Did I miss an initialisation somewhere?

This was what is blocking me now.
I also have a couple of more generic questions about the project:

1) When I build with the script and then with Xcode, Xcode starts from the beginning, generates new binaries and links against them. Why are the script and Xcode not using the same files? It feels like a waste of time and space.

2) I had to do a number of modifications to the project to get here. At some point I will send pull requests, but I understand most of the people do not want to have media_stream enabled by default. Does that mean that for each pull request, I will have to remove my changes, send the pull request and do them again?What is the right way of handling this situation?

Regards,
J-O H

--
Haché Jacques-Olivier
R&D Engineer at Temasys Communications Pte Ltd
Fr : 06 45 85 48 80
Sg : 9086 3673 

On 23 Jul 2014, at 16:49, Alexandre GOUAILLARD <agouaillard at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi benjamain, thanks for the answers, 
> 
> Cmake is not a build system in itself, it is a cross platform build generator. i.e. you can generate a make file, an VS solution file and a Xcode file from CMakeLists.txt (cmake -G).
> 
> So you mean to say that the committed make files and Xcode files are not generated from CMake, is that correct? Also, do you have any insight what the people using cmake end up using for building (is it make/gcc/ld, make/clang/ld, other flavors of build/compiler/linker) ?
> 
> regards,
> 
> Alex.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Benjamin Poulain <benjamin at webkit.org> wrote:
> 
> On 7/22/14, 12:48 AM, Jacques-Olivier wrote:
>> HI Benjamin,
>> 
>> Thanks for you answer.
>> 
>> I just deleted the XCodeBuild folder and added a couple of files in the project manually. 
>> My computer is re-building the project, I will see how it goes.
>> A couple of extra questions:
>> 
>> 1) After deleting the XCodeBuild folder, I cannot make my first build using Xcode. I end up with a file not found on 
>> #include <llvm-c/Analysis.h>
>> in JavaScriptCore/llvm/LLVMHeaders.h
>> I actually had the same issue on my first build. After a successful build from build-webkit, I can build again using Xcode (not clean and build).
>> Any lead regarding why?
> No idea, I only use build-webkit and make for building.
> A lot of people use Xcode so there must be a way to get it to work.
> 
>> 2) The Xcode projects is versioned on the repo. Is there anyway to re-generate it automatically?
>> Having the Xcode project shared sounds very unsafe. What is someone introduces a bug in it someday?
> The Xcode project files are not generated, they are real project files created by Xcode. WebKit contributors maintain 3 build systems in parallel: Xcode, CMake, and VS.
>> Regards,
>> J-O H
>> 
>> --
>> Haché Jacques-Olivier
>> R&D Engineer at Temasys Communications Pte Ltd
>> Fr : 06 45 85 48 80
>> Sg : 9086 3673 
>> 
>> On 22 Jul 2014, at 15:16, Benjamin Poulain <benjamin at webkit.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Quick answers inline:
>>> 
>>> On 7/21/14, 9:22 PM, Jacques-Olivier wrote:
>>>> Note: I already sent this email, but I didn’t get any answer, nor can I see the thread in the archives. Therefore I think it was blocked, maybe because of the attachment that I remove this time.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m new on this mailing so I’ll start by introducing myself:
>>>> My name Jacques-Olivier Haché (J-O), I’m working for Temasys Communication, and I’m entering the WebKit project to work on the implementation of WebRTC inside WebKit.
>>>> For those who would be following the WebRTC’s news, I’m also the main developer of the WebRTC plugin released by Temasys.
>>>> 
>>>> Back to business:
>>>> 
>>>> I was able to download the project, build it and run it inside Safari. I did not try to run it in a different browser yet.
>>>> 
>>>> My configuration:
>>>> Macbook Air 2012
>>>> Mac OS X 10.9.4
>>>> Revision 171167
>>>> I’m on master
>>>> I suppose I’m using the regular Mac port as I didn’t see where to change from one port to another yet.
>>>> building for debug mode
>>>> I am now trying to enable the WebRTC related features to get a better understanding of the current state of this part of the project. 
>>>> I have to say that I faced a lack of documentation on this area. I found the features list, a document about how to add a new feature but nothing about how to turn a feature on and off (there is actually a TODO about that in the second link).
>>>> 
>>>> I looked into the files that one needs to change to add a new feature and found two interesting files:
>>>> Source/WTF/wtf/FeatureDefines.h - where the WebRTC related contants were set to 0 instead of 1
>>>> Source/cmake/WebKitFeatures.cmake - where the contants were set to OFF
>>>> I listed the following definitions that look related to WebRTC
>>>> ENABLE_MEDIA_CAPTURE
>>>> ENABLE_MEDIA_CONTROLS_SCRIPT
>>>> ENABLE_MEDIA_SOURCE
>>>> ENABLE_MEDIA_STATISTICS
>>>> ENABLE_MEDIA_STREAM
>>>> ENABLE_VIDEO
>>>> ENABLE_VIDEO_TRACK
>>>> I turned those definitions to 1 and ON in the respective file and tried to build.
>>>> The code in the header WebCore/Modules/mediastream/mediastream.h could not compile apparently because the observer did not have a destructor. I created one:
>>>>     class Observer {
>>>>     public:
>>>>         virtual void didAddOrRemoveTrack() = 0;
>>>>       virtual ~Observer() {};
>>>>     };
>>>> 
>>>> and tried to build again.
>>>> 
>>>> I now have a linking error when building WebCore with Xcode. 
>>>> 
>>>> Ld /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug/WebCore.framework/Versions/A/WebCore normal x86_64
>>>>     cd /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/Source/WebCore
>>>>     export MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.9
>>>>     /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/clang++ -arch x86_64 -dynamiclib -isysroot /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.9.sdk -L/Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug -F/Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug -filelist /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/WebCore.build/Debug/WebCore.build/Objects-normal/x86_64/WebCore.LinkFileList -Xlinker --no-demangle -exported_symbols_list /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug/DerivedSources/WebCore/WebCore.LP64.exp -install_name /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/WebCore.framework/Versions/A/WebCore -mmacosx-version-min=10.9 -lsqlite3 -lobjc -lANGLE -sub_library libobjc -umbrella WebKit -allowable_client WebCoreTestSupport -allowable_client WebKit2 -allowable_client WebKitLegacy -framework ApplicationServices -framework AudioUnit -framework Carbon -framework Cocoa -framework IOSurface -framework OpenGL -stdlib=libc++ -fobjc-link-runtime -framework Accelerate -framework AudioToolbox -framework CoreAudio -framework IOKit -framework JavaScriptCore -licucore -lobjc -lxml2 -lz -framework QuartzCore -framework Security -framework SystemConfiguration -single_module -compatibility_version 1 -current_version 600.1 -Xlinker -dependency_info -Xlinker /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/WebCore.build/Debug/WebCore.build/Objects-normal/x86_64/WebCore_dependency_info.dat -o /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug/WebCore.framework/Versions/A/WebCore
>>>> 
>>>> Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
>>>>   "__ZN7WebCore11JSNavigator18webkitGetUserMediaEPN3JSC9ExecStateE", referenced from:
>>>>       __ZN7WebCore46jsNavigatorPrototypeFunctionWebkitGetUserMediaEPN3JSC9ExecStateE in JSNavigator.o
>>>>   "__ZN7WebCore15RTCOfferOptions6createERKNS_10DictionaryERi", referenced from:
>>>>       __ZN7WebCore17RTCPeerConnection11createOfferEN3WTF10PassRefPtrINS_29RTCSessionDescriptionCallbackEEENS2_INS_30RTCPeerConnectionErrorCallbackEEERKNS_10DictionaryERi in RTCPeerConnection.o
>>>>   "__ZN7WebCore20MediaConstraintsMock17verifyConstraintsEN3WTF10PassRefPtrINS_16MediaConstraintsEEE", referenced from:
>>>>       __ZN7WebCore21MockMediaStreamCenter26validateRequestConstraintsEN3WTF10PassRefPtrINS_25MediaStreamCreationClientEEENS2_INS_16MediaConstraintsEEES6_ in MockMediaStreamCenter.o
>>>>       __ZN7WebCore21MockMediaStreamCenter17createMediaStreamEN3WTF10PassRefPtrINS_25MediaStreamCreationClientEEENS2_INS_16MediaConstraintsEEES6_ in MockMediaStreamCenter.o
>>>>   "__ZN7WebCore21RTCOfferAnswerOptions6createERKNS_10DictionaryERi", referenced from:
>>>>       __ZN7WebCore17RTCPeerConnection12createAnswerEN3WTF10PassRefPtrINS_29RTCSessionDescriptionCallbackEEENS2_INS_30RTCPeerConnectionErrorCallbackEEERKNS_10DictionaryERi in RTCPeerConnection.o
>>>>   "__ZN7WebCore4toJSEPN3JSC9ExecStateEPNS_17JSDOMGlobalObjectEPNS_16RTCConfigurationE", referenced from:
>>>>       __ZN7WebCore52jsRTCPeerConnectionPrototypeFunctionGetConfigurationEPN3JSC9ExecStateE in JSRTCPeerConnection.o
>>>> ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
>>>> clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
>>>> 
>>>> I found that these strange names actually meant WebCore::JSNavigator::webkitGetUserMedia(execState *) - and same for the others.
>>>> Xcode will not find the definition of these functions, but Sublime_Text will. It looks like Xcode projects don’t include the files containing these definitions.
>>>> Am I supposed to run a script to re-generate the projects once I enable new features? If yes, I cannot find such a script.
>>>> I tried running cmake, but got this message:
>>>> Please choose which WebKit port to build (one of Efl;WinCE;GTK;AppleWin;WinCairo)
>>>> When what I want is the AppleMac port
>>>> 
>>>> If I build using build-webkit, I get a different stack
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> === BUILD TARGET WebCoreExportFileGenerator OF PROJECT WebCore WITH CONFIGURATION Debug ===
>>>> 
>>>> Check dependencies
>>>> iOS.xcconfig line 1: Unable to find included file "<DEVELOPER_DIR>/AppleInternal/XcodeConfig/AspenFamily.xcconfig"
>>>> Base.xcconfig line 24: Unable to find included file "../../../../Internal/Configurations/UseInternalSDK.xcconfig"
>>>> 
>>>> CompileC /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/WebCore.build/Debug/WebCoreExportFileGenerator.build/Objects-normal/x86_64/ExportFileGenerator.o /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug/DerivedSources/WebCore/ExportFileGenerator.cpp normal x86_64 c++ com.apple.compilers.llvm.clang.1_0.compiler
>>>>     cd /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/Source/WebCore
>>>>     export LANG=en_US.US-ASCII
>>>>     /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/clang -x c++ -arch x86_64 -fmessage-length=204 -fdiagnostics-show-note-include-stack -fmacro-backtrace-limit=0 -fcolor-diagnostics -std=gnu++11 -stdlib=libc++ -Wno-trigraphs -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -fpascal-strings -O0 -Werror -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-overloaded-virtual -Wno-exit-time-destructors -Wno-missing-braces -Wparentheses -Wswitch -Wunused-function -Wno-unused-label -Wno-unused-parameter -Wunused-variable -Wunused-value -Wempty-body -Wuninitialized -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wno-shadow -Wno-four-char-constants -Wno-conversion -Wconstant-conversion -Wint-conversion -Wbool-conversion -Wenum-conversion -Wsign-compare -Wno-shorten-64-to-32 -Wnewline-eof -Wno-c++11-extensions -DDISABLE_THREAD_CHECK -DENABLE_3D_RENDERING -DENABLE_CACHE_PARTITIONING -DENABLE_CANVAS_PATH -DENABLE_CHANNEL_MESSAGING -DENABLE_CSS_BOX_DECORATION_BREAK -DENABLE_CSS_COMPOSITING -DENABLE_CSS_EXCLUSIONS -DENABLE_CSS_FILTERS -DENABLE_CSS_GRID_LAYOUT -DENABLE_CSS_REGIONS -DENABLE_CSS_SHAPES -DENABLE_CSS_TRANSFORMS_ANIMATIONS_UNPREFIXED -DENABLE_CSS3_CONDITIONAL_RULES -DENABLE_CURSOR_VISIBILITY -DENABLE_DASHBOARD_SUPPORT -DENABLE_DETAILS_ELEMENT -DENABLE_DOM4_EVENTS_CONSTRUCTOR -DENABLE_ENCRYPTED_MEDIA -DENABLE_ENCRYPTED_MEDIA_V2 -DENABLE_FILTERS -DENABLE_FULLSCREEN_API -DENABLE_GAMEPAD -DENABLE_GEOLOCATION -DENABLE_HIDDEN_PAGE_DOM_TIMER_THROTTLING -DENABLE_ICONDATABASE -DENABLE_INDEXED_DATABASE -DENABLE_INDIE_UI -DENABLE_INPUT_TYPE_COLOR -DENABLE_INPUT_TYPE_COLOR_POPOVER -DENABLE_INSPECTOR -DENABLE_LEGACY_CSS_VENDOR_PREFIXES -DENABLE_LEGACY_NOTIFICATIONS -DENABLE_LEGACY_VENDOR_PREFIXES -DENABLE_LEGACY_WEB_AUDIO -DENABLE_MATHML -DENABLE_MEDIA_CONTROLS_SCRIPT -DENABLE_METER_ELEMENT -DENABLE_MOUSE_CURSOR_SCALE -DENABLE_NAVIGATOR_CONTENT_UTILS -DENABLE_NAVIGATOR_HWCONCURRENCY -DENABLE_NOTIFICATIONS -DENABLE_PDFKIT_PLUGIN -DENABLE_PROMISES 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-I/Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/WebCore.build/Debug/WebCoreExportFileGenerator.build/WebCoreExportFileGenerator.hmap -I/Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug/include -IForwardingHeaders -Iicu -I/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.9.sdk/usr/include/libxslt -I/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.9.sdk/usr/include/libxml2 -I/Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug/DerivedSources/WebCore -I/Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug/usr/local/include -I/Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug/usr/local/include/WebKitAdditions -I/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.9.sdk/usr/local/include/WebKitAdditions -I/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/include -I/Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/WebCore.build/Debug/WebCoreExportFileGenerator.build/DerivedSources/x86_64 -I/Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/WebCore.build/Debug/WebCoreExportFileGenerator.build/DerivedSources -Wall -Wextra -Wcast-qual -Wchar-subscripts -Wextra-tokens -Wformat=2 -Winit-self -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wmissing-noreturn -Wpacked -Wpointer-arith -Wredundant-decls -Wundef -Wwrite-strings -Wexit-time-destructors -Wglobal-constructors -Wtautological-compare -Wimplicit-fallthrough -F/Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug -include /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/PrecompiledHeaders/WebCorePrefix-gcoyowpevvvzkbecqfhdngvxbkag/WebCorePrefix.h -MMD -MT dependencies -MF /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/WebCore.build/Debug/WebCoreExportFileGenerator.build/Objects-normal/x86_64/ExportFileGenerator.d --serialize-diagnostics /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/WebCore.build/Debug/WebCoreExportFileGenerator.build/Objects-normal/x86_64/ExportFileGenerator.dia -c /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug/DerivedSources/WebCore/ExportFileGenerator.cpp -o /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/WebCore.build/Debug/WebCoreExportFileGenerator.build/Objects-normal/x86_64/ExportFileGenerator.o
>>>> fatal error: file '/Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug/usr/local/include/wtf/FeatureDefines.h' has been modified since the precompiled header
>>>>       '/Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/PrecompiledHeaders/WebCorePrefix-gcoyowpevvvzkbecqfhdngvxbkag/WebCorePrefix.h.pch' was built
>>>> 1 error generated.
>>>> 
>>>> ** BUILD FAILED **
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The following build commands failed:
>>>>  CompileC /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/WebCore.build/Debug/WebCoreExportFileGenerator.build/Objects-normal/x86_64/ExportFileGenerator.o /Users/jacquesolivierhache/Workspace/Temasys/WebKitProject/WebKit/WebKitBuild/Debug/DerivedSources/WebCore/ExportFileGenerator.cpp normal x86_64 c++ com.apple.compilers.llvm.clang.1_0.compiler
>>>> (1 failure)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Is anyone used to turn the WebRTC code on and off?
>>> This code has not been updated in a while, you will have to fix some stuff here and there to get it to do anything.
>>>> Did I miss an important step?
>>> Probably not.
>>>> Do you understand these errors?
>>> The first error could simply be because the files defining those symbols are not included in the XCode project file. Nobody has worked on WebRTC for a while, it probably only builds for GTK.
>>> 
>>> The second error is likely a problem with the incremental build. I would just delete WebKitBuild and start a clean build.
>>>> Why is the precompiled header not re-built when there are changes in the headers?
>>> Yep, that's weird. I only run into problems with precompiled headers when I change my SDK.
>>> But after changing feature flags you often have to do a clean build anyway. There are too many code generators that are not tracking these kind of dependencies.
>>> 
>>> Good luck!
>>> Benjamin
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