[webkit-dev] No (was Re: can we stop using Skipped files?)

Ryosuke Niwa rniwa at webkit.org
Tue Jun 12 00:05:47 PDT 2012


On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Dirk Pranke <dpranke at chromium.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa at webkit.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Dirk Pranke <dpranke at chromium.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Dirk Pranke <dpranke at chromium.org>
> wrote:
> >> > I believe most if not all of the ports have started using either
> >> > TestExpectations files or a combination of TestExpectations files
> >> > (except for the Apple Win port).
> >> >
> >> > Can we explicitly switch to the TestExpectations files at this point
> >> > and drop support for Skipped files on the other ports (and perhaps
> >> > disable old-run-webkit-tests for all but apple win)?
> >> >
> >> > If not, what needs to happen so that we can do that? Do we need to
> >> > land more of the discussed changes to the syntax of the
> >> > TestExpectations file? Anything else?
> >> >
> >> > It would be nice to get rid of the complexity (both in the code and in
> >> > our heads) if we can.
> >> >
> >>
> >> It is clear that we're not at the point where we can stop using
> >> Skipped files yet. There appear to be at least two things that need to
> >> be done, before we reach that point, let alone remove ORWT (which is
> >> clearly right off the table right now).
> >>
> >> First, NRWT appears to still be missing some functionality, and that
> >> is keeping some people on ORWT. I was not aware of this, so thanks to
> >> those of you that have pointed this out. Please keep the bugs and
> >> feature requests coming! I have filed bug 88680 to track such issues.
> >>
> >> Second, it appears that some people feel strongly that NRWT "less
> >> hackable" than ORWT, and that this is a significant issue for them. I
> >> was not aware of this, at least not that it was a significant issue. I
> >> have filed bug 88841 to track any suggestions or improvements people
> >> might have for fixing this.
> >>
> >> Given the above, it seems that we can't yet switch to TestExpectations
> >> files, but ...
> >>
> >> There is another option: we could change ORWT to read the
> >> TestExpectations files instead and just honor the SKIP entries
> >> (ignoring the other expectations). Is that something we should
> >> consider?
> >
> >
> > That seems like a nice intermediate step so that people don't have to
> > maintain both files. I would aruge, however, that we should simplify the
> > syntax for SKIP entries (it should no mean block the work to make ORWT
> > support TestExpectations but it's probably easier to simplify the syntax
> > before ORWT supports it).
> >
>
> Haven't we already "aruge"d this? :) I thought we already agreed that
> we want to change the syntax in the file (cf. bug 86796)?


Right. I'm just suggesting that we should fix that bug first.

- Ryosuke
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