[webkit-dev] Double-Resolution (Retina) Images - Re: -webkit-image-set

Tom Penzer tpenzer at mailcan.com
Wed Apr 25 10:43:31 PDT 2012

Thanks Chris,
I'll go bring it up on the relevant w3.org lists (I'm guessing I'll start on public-HTML-comments) and see where that takes me, after refining my idea a bit to use more conventional naming, and to hopefully account for other scales than 2x in an elegant manner.

I just wanted to make sure no one here told me "don't bother, we've got superior solution x in the works", or "due to y, that's not gonna fly!" 

Surely, 2x images can be implemented in a sane and efficient manner for web developers.


On Apr 25, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Chris Hutten-Czapski <chutten at rim.com> wrote:

>>> Assuming I'm understanding Kalle correctly, it seems this could
>>> already be accomplished with @media resolution?
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-mediaqueries/#resolution
> Not to be too cute about it, but CSS dpi is _always_ 96 CSS pixels per CSS inch. What this means onscreen is (almost) completely up to the user-agent. This is (potentially) why the resolution media query is defined (via the very link above) to only work for bitmap media types, not screen.
> Dealing with hardware that has a screen dpi much higher than what CSS prescribes for a device at its viewing distance (viewing distance matters: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-values/#reference-pixel ) is a hard problem, and is one that is being discussed at length on the previously-mentioned threads and elsewhere. 
> The iPhone seems to handle it by introducing a third type of pixels between hardware and CSS (a device/density-independent-pixel, or dip) that allows them to pretend that even the new iPhone has only 320px of width in portrait. BlackBerry has done other things at various times, currently taking advantage of dpi scaling (a little of which you can see in BlackBerry::WebKit::WebPagePrivate::recomputeVirtualViewportFromViewportArguments ). Android and Chrome-for-Android also have congruent practices, even exposing some of it to authors using target-densitydpi.
> Using HTML attributes and CSS properties to offload the effort of supporting multiple densities to the author from the user-agent might be the best way to solve this problem. I'm not as conversant in all the points as I feel I'd need to be to render a full opinion, but my uneducated opinion is that this sounds kinda hackish. 
> Regardless, this indeed seems like it should be discussed by the standards bodies, not webkit-dev.
> Style,
> Chris H-C
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