[webkit-dev] WebKit branch to support multiple VMs (e.g., Dart)

Oliver Hunt oliver at apple.com
Tue Dec 6 23:53:20 PST 2011


On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Dominic Cooney wrote:

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> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Oliver Hunt <oliver at apple.com> wrote:
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> On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:55 AM, Anton Muhin wrote:
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> > Good day, everyone!
> >
> > I am sorry if it didn't sound clear enough in our original message,
> > but we're not proposing a new language support, but we're proposing a
> > patch which allows others runtimes to run along with JS in the
> > browser.
> >
> > Of course, we're doing this because of our work on Dart, but our
> > intent was to solicit a feedback from the WebKit community if there is
> > any interest in supporting runtimes additional to JS (and not JS +
> > Dart) in the first place.
> As I have already said, we already support multiple bindings being in use at the same time.
> 
> Those bindings are different because the code that uses them is not activated from web pages. Looking at the specific posted patches, those changes seem necessary to support activating a different language from a page eg <script> tag. So I think while that your specific claim that WebKit supports multiple bindings at the same time is true, it misses the point.

No I was getting sick of the continual claim that this was about supporting multiple VMs/bindings, rather than adding proprietary extensions to webkit

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>  Continuing to claim that is your goal is not helpful.  Your goal is to allow additional non-standard languages to be provided by webcontent.  This is an academic exercise as it doesn't match webkit's goal of being a standards compliant engine,
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> Is that WebKit’s goal?

Um, yes.  From http://www.webkit.org/projects/goals.html (I'm fairly sure this has already been quoted in an earlier email but just to bring it back in context):
Goals
Web Content Engine
The project's primary focus is content deployed on the World Wide Web, using standards-based technologies such as HTML, CSS, JavaScript and the DOM. 
--Oliver
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