[webkit-dev] webkit-dev Digest, Vol 46, Issue 11

Gavin Barraclough barraclough at apple.com
Wed Mar 11 22:28:00 PDT 2009


On Mar 11, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Nitin wrote:

> hello,
> I got some questions which are basic , but they confuse me so Can  
> AnyOne tell me where I can send my doubts.
> One simple among them is what is run-time and built in type object,  
> which are they.

The classes in runtime are largely meant to support the set of object  
types specified in the ECMA spec, Array, Date, RegExp, etc.  We also  
refer to these types as the built-in types, so I don't think in our  
semantics we distinguish between runtime and built-in types as being  
two distinct things.  As an idealized statement I think we'd say that  
the runtime directory is intended to solely contain the classes  
providing the implementation of the user-visible primitives and object  
types from the ECMA spec, that form the JavaScript runtime  
environment.  However in addition it also makes sense to keep certain  
pieces of the internal implementation of JavaScriptCore here, where  
they are used in implementing types within the runtime.  For example,  
the class Structure does not represent a type visible within the  
JavaScript language and only exists as a part of our implementation,  
but it is key in implementing the type Object.

I'm not sure if this answers your question, I hope this helps.
G.

> Like we have something like Array Object, Date objects , N i suppose  
> they are built-in types , but currently webkit has put them in  
> runtime.So i m in kind of confusion , can anyOne help me with this
> regards
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>   1. WebKit JavaScript Virtual Machine (ying lcs)
>   2. Re: WebKit JavaScript Virtual Machine (ying lcs)
>   3. Media Codec (Chen Kwan-MGIA0013)
>   4. Re: JSON native parser (Adam Barth)
>   5. Dump Render Tree Crashes in Windows (r41443) (N.V. Balaji)
>   6. Re: Media Codec (Darin Adler)
>   7. Re: JSON native parser (Husam Senussi)
>   8. Show the chinese text when I browser the www.google.cn
>      (canquan.shencq)
>   9. How to compile WebKit GTK+ port from ARM processor? (arati)
>  10. Re: How to compile WebKit GTK+ port from ARM processor?
>      (Holger Freyther)
>  11. about v1 and v2 (zhenghe zhang)
>  12. To use Freenode IRC, do I need to use non-windows OS ? (???)
>  13. Re: To use Freenode IRC, do I need to use non-windows OS ?
>      (Christian Dywan)
>  14. How can I search through webkit-dev mailling list archive? (???)
>  15. Re: How can I search through webkit-dev mailling list
>      archive? (David Kilzer)
>  16. Re: How can I search through webkit-dev mailling list
>      archive? (???)
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:12:00 -0700
> From: ying lcs <yinglcs at gmail.com>
> Subject: [webkit-dev] WebKit JavaScript Virtual Machine
> To: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Message-ID:
>        <568e62a40903101212s5972539cy364750bc9bc713c8 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi,
>
> In WebKit JavaScript Virtual Machine, what is the implementation of
> the virtual machine?
> Is that a stack based? or register based?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:13:59 -0700
> From: ying lcs <yinglcs at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit JavaScript Virtual Machine
> To: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Message-ID:
>        <568e62a40903101213y770a14f1p6f358d3540d0f72e at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Sorry, I found the answer.
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:12 PM, ying lcs <yinglcs at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > In WebKit JavaScript Virtual Machine, what is the implementation of
> > the virtual machine?
> > Is that a stack based? or register based?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:26:34 -0400
> From: "Chen Kwan-MGIA0013" <kwanchen at motorola.com>
> Subject: [webkit-dev] Media Codec
> To: <webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <A62298E70C532F42B943040FDC558318052BA440 at ct11exm61.ds.mot.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to WebKit. I'm trying to understand how video/audio codec's  
> can
> be incorporated or plugged into the platform but didn't have much
> success. I wonder if anyone can answer my questions and/or provide the
> pointers for detail info.
>
> Regards.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:44:33 -0800
> From: Adam Barth <abarth at webkit.org>
> Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] JSON native parser
> To: ariya.hidayat at trolltech.com
> Cc: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Message-ID:
>        <7789133a0903102144w488b8522w45e4928d5c0fbce3 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Ariya Hidayat
> <ariya.hidayat at trolltech.com> wrote:
> >> Those efforts have mostly stalled. ?If you're interested in helping
> >> out, that would be much appreciated. ?:)
> >
> > Adam, I am willing to help. Where and how do I start?
>
> Great!  There are a couple of folks interested in working on this, so
> we should be careful to avoid duplicating effort.
>
> I would start by reading the JSON RFC (it's pretty short):
>
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4627.txt
>
> Next, I would read Firefox's implementation:
>
> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/src/json.cpp
>
> For the precise JavaScript API, please see the ECMAScript 3.1 spec:
>
> http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=es3.1:json_support
>
> We want to match Firefox's (and IE's) behavior exactly.  Then I would
> look at our https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20031 which has
> some possibly useful code.  If that code isn't useful, feel free to
> throw it away.
>
> Maciej recommends we implement this feature using our existing JSC
> lexer and a bison grammar.  I believe JSC already uses a bison grammar
> for JavaScript, so it might be worth adapting that for JSON.
>
> Adam
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:25:04 +0530
> From: "N.V. Balaji" <nvbalaji at gmail.com>
> Subject: [webkit-dev] Dump Render Tree Crashes in Windows (r41443)
> To: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Message-ID:
>        <aebeae2c0903102155r5fb4e96eg8db36bd2cf09e033 at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Hi All,
> I have been trying to execute the automated lay-out tests on 5th Mar  
> 2009
> nightly (r41443).However the DumpRenderTree_debug.exe is crashing. The
> layout test begins with Animation and every test case seems to be  
> failing.
>
> I downloaded the source and compiled on Windows. I am able to build  
> the
> code, successfully launch win launcher(WinLauncher_debug.exe ) and  
> browse
> sites. However when I attempt Layout tests, DumpRenderTree_debug.exe  
> is
> crashing
>
> I would appreciate if you can point out what is going wrong. I am  
> herewith
> sharing a few details, dir contents and the log for your reference.
>
>
> Thanks in Advance
> Regds
> Balaji N V
>
>
> A few details:
> -----------------
> 1. I use Safari 3.2.1
> 2. I copied the Safari 3.2.1 DLLS (includes icu??36.dll) and other  
> resources
> into WebKitBuild/bin directory
>             - I am keeping freshly built QTMovieWin_debug.dll,  
> webkit.dll
>
> 3. I am getting a warning during the execution of Layout tests
>     - The error/warning msg is "Skipped list contained
> 'fast/forms/input-truncate-newline.html', but no file of that name  
> could be
> found'
>
> 4. I downloaded the "Layouttests" directory from the SVN Trunk on  
> 3rd March
> 2009.
>
>
> Contents of WebKitBuild/bin directory
> ============================
>
> Freshly Built:
>
> DumpRenderTree_debug.suo
> SafariTheme.resources
> Safari.resources
> PubSub.resources
> Plugins
> CoreFoundation.resources
> CFNetwork.resources
> DumpRenderTree_debug.ilk
> DumpRenderTree_debug.pdb
> DumpRenderTree_debug.exe
> ImageDiff_debug.ilk
> ImageDiff_debug.exe
> ImageDiff_debug.pdb
> testnetscapeplugin_debug
> WinLauncher_debug.exe
> WinLauncher_debug.ilk
> WinLauncher_debug.pdb
> jsc_debug.ilk
> jsc_debug.exe
> jsc_debug.pdb
> testapi_debug.ilk
> testapi_debug.exe
> testapi_debug.pdb
> WebKit.resources
> WebKit.ilk
> WebKit.dll
> WebKit.pdb
> FindSafari.exe
> FindSafari.pdb
> QTMovieWin_debug.ilk
> QTMovieWin_debug.dll
> QTMovieWin_debug.pdb
> record-memory-win.exe
> record-memory-win.pdb
>
>
> Copied from safari 3.2.1:
>
> Safari.exe
> QTMovieWin.dll
> zlib1.dll
> SQLite3.dll
> SpellChecker.dll
> Search.dll
> SafariTheme.dll
> PubSubDLL.dll
> libxslt.dll
> pthreadVC2.dll
> libxml2.dll
> libtidy.dll
> icuuc36.dll
> icuin36.dll
> CoreGraphics.dll
> CoreFoundation.dll
> CFNetwork.dll
> icudt36.dll
>
> Log:
> -------
> /cygdrive/e/svn/webkit/5th_mar_nightly/WebKit-r41443
> $ WebKitTools/Scripts/run-webkit-tests
> Building results into:
> /cygdrive/e/svn/webkit/5th_mar_nightly/WebKit-r41443/WebKitBuild
> WEBKITOUTPUTDIR is set to:
> E:\svn\webkit\5th_mar_nightly\WebKit-r41443\WebKitBuild
> WEBKITLIBRARIESDIR is set to:
> E:\svn\webkit\5th_mar_nightly\WebKit-r41443\WebKitLibraries\win
>
> /cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft Visual Studio
> 8/Common7/IDE/devenv.comDumpRenderTree.sln /build Debug
>
> Microsoft (R) Visual Studio Version 8.0.50727.762.
> Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1984-2005. All rights reserved.
> 1>------ Skipped Build: Project: FindSafari ------
> 1>
> ========== Build: 0 succeeded, 0 failed, 3 up-to-date, 1 skipped  
> ==========
> Running tests from
> /cygdrive/e/svn/webkit/5th_mar_nightly/WebKit-r41443/LayoutTests
> Skipped list contained 'fast/forms/input-truncate-newline.html', but  
> no file
> of that name could be found
>
> Testing 9973 test cases.
> animations .
> animations/animation-controller-drt-api.html -> failed
> ..
> animations/animation-drt-api-multiple-keyframes.html -> failed
> .
> animations/animation-drt-api.html -> failed
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:26:38 -0700
> From: Darin Adler <darin at apple.com>
> Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] Media Codec
> To: Chen Kwan-MGIA0013 <kwanchen at motorola.com>
> Cc: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Message-ID: <1C3D5CB9-6F6A-45AC-AA00-1B92F2927FBD at apple.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> On Mar 10, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Chen Kwan-MGIA0013 wrote:
>
> > I'm new to WebKit. I'm trying to understand how video/audio codec's
> > can be incorporated or plugged into the platform but didn't have
> > much success. I wonder if anyone can answer my questions and/or
> > provide the pointers for detail info.
>
> The video and audio elements use back ends called media engines,
> represented by the MediaPlayer class. At the moment, there are
> implementations of media player for the Mac OS X QuickTime QTKit
> framework, the GStreamer system for GTK, QuickTime on Windows, Phonon
> for Qt, and a media player interface specific to Chromium. Each of
> these media systems has its own system for managing codecs.
>
>     -- Darin
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:58:41 +0000
> From: Husam Senussi <husam at senussi.com>
> Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] JSON native parser
> To: Adam Barth <abarth at webkit.org>
> Cc: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Message-ID: <B68A2687-E953-4AA6-A0D9-AE142319195E at senussi.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
>
> On 11 Mar 2009, at 04:44, Adam Barth wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Ariya Hidayat
> > <ariya.hidayat at trolltech.com> wrote:
> >>> Those efforts have mostly stalled.  If you're interested in  
> helping
> >>> out, that would be much appreciated.  :)
> >>
> >> Adam, I am willing to help. Where and how do I start?
> >
> > Great!  There are a couple of folks interested in working on this,  
> so
> > we should be careful to avoid duplicating effort.
> >
> > I would start by reading the JSON RFC (it's pretty short):
> >
> > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4627.txt
> >
> > Next, I would read Firefox's implementation:
> >
> > http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/src/json.cpp
> >
> > For the precise JavaScript API, please see the ECMAScript 3.1 spec:
> >
> > http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=es3.1:json_support
> >
> > We want to match Firefox's (and IE's) behavior exactly.  Then I  
> would
> > look at our https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20031 which has
> > some possibly useful code.  If that code isn't useful, feel free to
> > throw it away.
> >
> > Maciej recommends we implement this feature using our existing JSC
> > lexer and a bison grammar.  I believe JSC already uses a bison  
> grammar
> > for JavaScript, so it might be worth adapting that for JSON.
> >
> > Adam
> > _______________________________________________
> > webkit-dev mailing list
> > webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> > http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
> >
>
> I already started with bison grammar just looking into how to write JS
> Object to test the grammar.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:45:06 +0800
> From: "canquan.shencq" <canquan.shencq at alibaba-inc.com>
> Subject: [webkit-dev] Show the chinese text when I browser the
>        www.google.cn
> To: <webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org>
> Message-ID: <1859A1FA7E7C4BC985927AEF69D4895B at hz.ali.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312"
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am build webkit on linux , when I success to build and run the  
> QtLauncher
> www.google.cn <http://www.google.cn/>  ? the Chinese text not show.  I
> wonder if anyone can answer my questions and/or provide the pointers  
> for
> detail info.
>
>
>
> Steven Shen
>
> 2009-3-11
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:46:07 +0530
> From: "arati" <arati.jadhav at unnat-e.com>
> Subject: [webkit-dev] How to compile WebKit GTK+ port from ARM
>        processor?
> To: <webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org>
> Message-ID: <000c01c9a22a$03a39c70$0201a8c0 at ARATI>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone give me any pointer to compile WebKit GTK+ port for ARM
> processor?
>
> Can this be done using gcc ?
>
>
>
> Thanks
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:23:31 +0100
> From: Holger Freyther <zecke at selfish.org>
> Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] How to compile WebKit GTK+ port from ARM
>        processor?
> To: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Message-ID: <200903111123.31713.zecke at selfish.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-15"
>
> On Wednesday 11 March 2009 10:16:07 arati wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can anyone give me any pointer to compile WebKit GTK+ port for ARM
> > processor?
>
> Which operating system?
>
> z.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:42:15 +0800
> From: "zhenghe zhang" <zhenghe.zhang at gmail.com>
> Subject: [webkit-dev] about v1 and v2
> To: <webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org>
> Message-ID: <49b79588.08486e0a.3816.268b at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi all
> After JavaScriptCore parse the js functions, and there is "v1" and  
> "v2" in
> identifierTable .Now I want to know what are these identifiers  
> function
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:35:59 +0900
> From: ??? <journeyerhum at gmail.com>
> Subject: [webkit-dev] To use Freenode IRC, do I need to use
>        non-windows OS ?
> To: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Message-ID:
>        <14848fa40903110435s6ec01256gecb824e4c1bb75ca at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>  Hello,
>
> I've read that there is a place for developers' discussion in  
> Freenode IRC.
> But my safari on win XP only says that she can't access the url  
> because
> windows doesn't recognise irc scheme url.
> Then do I need to try it on linux or mac?
>
> Thank you all in advance.
> Have a nice day.
>
> --
> Humi
> Seoul
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:40:23 +0100
> From: Christian Dywan <christian at twotoasts.de>
> Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] To use Freenode IRC, do I need to use
>        non-windows OS ?
> To: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Message-ID: <20090311124023.414771fc at twotoasts.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Am Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:35:59 +0900
> schrieb ??? <journeyerhum at gmail.com>:
>
> >  Hello,
> >
> > I've read that there is a place for developers' discussion in
> > Freenode IRC. But my safari on win XP only says that she can't  
> access
> > the url because windows doesn't recognise irc scheme url.
> > Then do I need to try it on linux or mac?
>
> Hey Humi,
>
> there are lots of clients for IRC for any operating system, you can
> even use a BlackBerry or Symbian mobile for that :)
>
> I suggest you have a look at XChat, Bersirc or Pidgin, these provide
> Win32 builds.
>
> Yours,
>    Christian
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:44:57 +0900
> From: ??? <journeyerhum at gmail.com>
> Subject: [webkit-dev] How can I search through webkit-dev mailling
>        list    archive?
> To: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Message-ID:
>        <14848fa40903110444p2d4b1f7ctbdb0ee0c2987425f at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello,
>
> I am again ^^;
>
> I'd liek to ask a question about the way to search through our  
> mailing list
> archive.
> Now when I search some keyword from the archive, I do search for one  
> month
> of archive at a time. This way make me give up on searching the  
> whole one.
> I can only search on the recent archives.
> Isn't there another way to search the whole archive at a time?
>
> Best regards
> --
> Humi
> Seoul
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:31:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Kilzer <ddkilzer at webkit.org>
> Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] How can I search through webkit-dev mailling
>        list    archive?
> To: ??? <journeyerhum at gmail.com>
> Cc: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Message-ID: <725864.93286.qm at web110808.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Yes, use "site:lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev" as a keyword  
> in a Google search.  For example:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=site:lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev+help&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: ??? <journeyerhum at gmail.com>
> To: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:44:57 AM
> Subject: [webkit-dev] How can I search through webkit-dev mailling  
> list archive?
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am again ^^;
>
> I'd liek to ask a question about the way to search through our  
> mailing list archive.
> Now when I search some keyword from the archive, I do search for one  
> month of archive at a time. This way make me give up on searching  
> the whole one. I can only search on the recent archives.
> Isn't there another way to search the whole archive at a time?
>
> Best regards
> --
> Humi
> Seoul
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:59:32 +0900
> From: ??? <journeyerhum at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] How can I search through webkit-dev mailling
>        list    archive?
> To: David Kilzer <ddkilzer at webkit.org>
> Cc: webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> Message-ID:
>        <14848fa40903110659j68fb1b1aufec979f75598c27e at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="euc-kr"
>
> Hi, Dave
>
> Your suggestion works partly. But the idea is good. ^^;
> Thank you again.
>
> Take care and have a good day
>
> 2009/3/11 David Kilzer <ddkilzer at webkit.org>
>
> >  Yes, use "site:lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev" as a  
> keyword in a
> > Google search.  For example:
> >
> >
> > http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=site:lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev+help&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* ??? <journeyerhum at gmail.com>
> > *To:* webkit-dev at lists.webkit.org
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:44:57 AM
> > *Subject:* [webkit-dev] How can I search through webkit-dev  
> mailling list
> > archive?
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am again ^^;
> >
> > I'd liek to ask a question about the way to search through our  
> mailing list
> > archive.
> > Now when I search some keyword from the archive, I do search for  
> one month
> > of archive at a time. This way make me give up on searching the  
> whole one.
> > I can only search on the recent archives.
> > Isn't there another way to search the whole archive at a time?
> >
> > Best regards
> > --
> > Humi
> > Seoul
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Humi
> Seoul
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