[webkit-dev] Autoconf

[Mike Emmel]

On 2/21/06, Mario Bensi <mbensi at sand-labs.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I find this project :
>
> http://www.scons.org/
>
> http://www.cmake.org/HTML/Index.html
>
> it's perhaps a better approach  than autoconf/automake...
>
> what do you think of this?
>
> Mario
>
I  just converted to  bakefile I'm pretty happy with it and it allows
python code inline.
I've looked at cmake and its as complex as autconf arguably better but
I like bakfile
plus with bakefile although xml allows inline python giving you s a
lot of what scons
In fact it prob possible to merge some of scons into bakefile.

Bakefile reminds me a lot of ant which works well for java but never
really works for C/C++.
And it can generate the OSX xcode build scripts. I was happy  that it
generated a reasonable Makefile no autoconf needed for me !!!

My vote is  now Bakefile

Mike


> Le Mardi 21 Février 2006 03:02, Mike Emmel a écrit:
> > On 2/20/06, Kevin Ollivier <kevino at theolliviers.com> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:44 PM, Justin Haygood wrote:
> > > I'm interested in this for a GTK port of the WebKit system.
> > > autoconf/automake is ugly, but it works, and we don't have a decent IDE.
> > >
> > > Just as a FYI, we use Bakefile (http://bakefile.sf.net) to generate the
> > > wxWebCore project makefiles. Basically, you create an XML-based
> > > 'Bakefile', then the Bakefile program uses that to generate just about
> > > any project format you want, including MSVC, GNU make, autoconf/automake
> > > (i.e. Makefile.in files), Borland, etc. (Format list is here:
> > > http://bakefile.sourceforge.net/doc/html/rn01re01.html)
> > >
> > > This way you don't have to worry about keeping the makefiles in sync for
> > > all ports, and you can move from a regular old makefile system to an
> > > autoconf system fairly simply, probably with no work at all.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Kevin
> >
> > Good enough for me I'll switch :)
> >
> > I think this is a good approach in general generating the makefile for
> > xcode is trivial.
> > Is the xcode project format documented ?
> >
> > Btw found the project but the url for downloading is wrong it should be
> >
> > svn checkout http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/wxwebcore/wxwebcore/trunk
> > wxwebcore
> >
> > you have
> >
> > svn checkout http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/wxwebcore/trunk
> >
> > on
> >
> > http://developer.berlios.de/svn/?group_id=3786
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > > On 2/20/06, Mike Emmel <mike.emmel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 2/20/06, Krzysztof Kowalczyk < kkowalczyk at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 2/20/06, Mike Emmel <mike.emmel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I'm working on upgrading the linux port now. For this I feel I
> > > > > > really should use autoconf.
> > > > > > Are there any strong feelings  on adding autoconf support for
> > >
> > > building.
> > >
> > > > > My personal experiences with build software with autoconf, even on
> > > > > mainstream Linux distros (Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu) is negative which
> > > > > means that I failed to build it more often than I succeded. Sometimes
> > > > > autoconf version that I had was too old, sometimes too new, sometimes
> > > > > depended m4 macros were not installed but most of the time I would
> > > > > just get incomprehensible, impossible to debug error message.
> > > > >
> > > > > Autoconf is better than nothing but I would personally prefer a
> > > > > hand-written Makefile.
> > > > >
> > > > > Common belief is that only autoconf/automake etc. is able to support
> > > > > building under wide variety of Unixes but projects like e.g. ffmpeg
> > > > > show that it's possible to write a makefile and a custom configure.sh
> > > > > script that works.
> > > >
> > > > Yes I agree that it could work using makefiles but I don't think thats
> > > > and option
> > > > for me right now since for now I'm the only one that seems to be
> > > > working
> > >
> > > on this
> > >
> > > > and then only in my spare time. I don't think that spending a lot of
> > > > time developing a
> > > > make only build system is the best way to get the linux port in the
> > > > mainstream to entice other developers to participate. I'd rather get
> > > > it working under autoconf then maybe considering how butt ugly
> > > > autoconf is Apple will allow the  command line xcode tools to be
> > > > ported to linux :)
> > > > Or more likely replace it with a simple make based build system later.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > > -- kjk
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