On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Maciej Stachowiak <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mjs@apple.com">mjs@apple.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><div class="im"><div>On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:58 PM, Harry Underwood wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">Thanks very much for the explanations, everyone. Sorry about the long chain of questions, but I wanted to form a FAQ-type basis for future questions regarding the difference between what Apple and WebKit are doing with SVG+CSS and what Google and Khronos Group are doing with O3D vs. WebGL, </blockquote>
<div><br></div></div><div>Even that way of framing it sounds potentially inaccurate. Some corrections:</div><div><br></div><div>- Neither Apple nor WebKit are specifically trying to do something with SVG+CSS. We do support SVG, and we have some CSS extensions, but we&#39;re not especially pushing this combination.</div>
<div><br></div><div>- We&#39;re hoping others adopt our 3D CSS transforms, just as our 2D CSS transforms and CSS transitions have gotten interest from Mozilla and others.</div><div><br></div><div>- Apple, along with Google, Mozilla, Khronos Group and others, is actively supporting WebGL.</div>
<div><br></div><div>- O3D is, at least for now, a Google-only technology.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m not on the O3D team, but it&#39;s my understanding that they&#39;re trying to get O3D (or some sort of retained mode 3D API) on a standards track....so hopefully it won&#39;t be &quot;Google-only&quot; for much longer.  :-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Also note that O3D is open source software (<a href="http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/o3d/">http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/o3d/</a>) and is available as a plugin for many browsers (not sure which ones specifically, though).  So maybe &quot;plugin-only&quot; is a better way to describe it at the moment?</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div></div><div>- None of these technologies serve quite the same purpose.</div>
<div class="im"><br><blockquote type="cite">at least because a number (a minority, most likely) of people are highly interested in the post-VRML &quot;3D Web&quot; nowadays.</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>There&#39;s definitely a lot of people interested in 3D. It would be good to collect the information about this.</div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think Maciej summed things up very precisely (besides my one nit of a comment).</div><div><br></div><div>J</div></div>